{"id":22609,"date":"2020-02-04T19:14:51","date_gmt":"2020-02-04T19:14:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.skydivemag.com\/new\/?p=22609"},"modified":"2020-02-27T15:21:05","modified_gmt":"2020-02-27T15:21:05","slug":"mistakes-4-way-teams-make","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.skydivemag.com\/new\/mistakes-4-way-teams-make\/","title":{"rendered":"Mistakes 4-way teams make"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Starting your first team? Avoid these four traps!<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"576\" src=\"https:\/\/www.skydivemag.com\/new\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Perris-4way-Nationals-2017-PC-Thad-Parker-FI-1024x576.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-22614\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.skydivemag.com\/new\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Perris-4way-Nationals-2017-PC-Thad-Parker-FI-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.skydivemag.com\/new\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Perris-4way-Nationals-2017-PC-Thad-Parker-FI-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.skydivemag.com\/new\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Perris-4way-Nationals-2017-PC-Thad-Parker-FI-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.skydivemag.com\/new\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Perris-4way-Nationals-2017-PC-Thad-Parker-FI-400x225.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.skydivemag.com\/new\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Perris-4way-Nationals-2017-PC-Thad-Parker-FI-860x484.jpg 860w, https:\/\/www.skydivemag.com\/new\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Perris-4way-Nationals-2017-PC-Thad-Parker-FI.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Perris Fury at the US Nationals 2017, photo by Thad Parker<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Not setting goals<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Everyone has their own individual goals when they join a team. People find a group that they think will help them achieve these personal ambitions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>New teams often don\u2019t take the time to set goals as a group.<\/em><\/strong>Not having a clear group purpose fails to align the individual ideas of what the team can be. Just agreeing to a training calendar is not a reason to train 4-way. I\u2019ve seen one teammate want to compete as a primary personal goal while another wants only to have a social experience. Those goals could be very compatible, but articulate them early.<\/p>\n\n\n<p><!-- Perris LL Generic [async] --><br \/>\n<script type=\"text\/javascript\">if (!window.AdButler){(function(){var s = document.createElement(\"script\"); s.async = true; s.type = \"text\/javascript\";s.src = 'https:\/\/servedbyadbutler.com\/app.js';var n = document.getElementsByTagName(\"script\")[0]; n.parentNode.insertBefore(s, n);}());}<\/script><br \/>\n<script type=\"text\/javascript\">\nvar AdButler = AdButler || {}; AdButler.ads = AdButler.ads || [];\nvar abkw = window.abkw || '';\nvar plc363167 = window.plc363167 || 0;\ndocument.write('<'+'div id=\"placement_363167_'+plc363167+'\"><\/'+'div>');\nAdButler.ads.push({handler: function(opt){ AdButler.register(175942, 363167, [860,248], 'placement_363167_'+opt.place, opt); }, opt: { place: plc363167++, keywords: abkw, domain: 'servedbyadbutler.com', click:'CLICK_MACRO_PLACEHOLDER' }});\n<\/script><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Not getting specific about money<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I\u2019ve seen teams agree to season plans as vague as \u2018let\u2019s do a 100 jump and 2 hours of tunnel\u2019. While that seems pretty specific, teammate Jack hears that as \u2018we will do a 100 jumps with coaching, video, packing; if we are weathered we will make up the days; that doesn\u2019t include nationals\u2019. Teammate Carrie hears \u2018We will do 100 jumps with a go pro; I will pack for myself; I don\u2019t care for coaching; if it rains we will lose jumps and our numbers includes nationals jumps\u2019. Those are very different visions and very different price tags.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When starting a team, figure out a budget. I encourage teams to express their commitment level in monthly budget terms. Once you have committed to a resource level, it is a little easier to debate how to use the resources.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"576\" src=\"https:\/\/www.skydivemag.com\/new\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Perris-4way-FI-1024x576.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-22615\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.skydivemag.com\/new\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Perris-4way-FI-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.skydivemag.com\/new\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Perris-4way-FI-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.skydivemag.com\/new\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Perris-4way-FI-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.skydivemag.com\/new\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Perris-4way-FI-400x225.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.skydivemag.com\/new\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Perris-4way-FI-860x484.jpg 860w, https:\/\/www.skydivemag.com\/new\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Perris-4way-FI.jpg 1316w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Perris Fury at the US Nationals 2017 <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Not having a decision-making plan<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A functioning team sees many decisions every training day. Talking about these situations upfront is helpful. I also strongly recommend&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.skydivemag.com\/new\/2014-01-11-rotating-captain\/\">a rotating captainship<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Unrealistic expectations<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">4-way is hard work. Teams just starting often have high hopes of success but no sense of what to expect from the level of input. They start to develop rigid expectations on how they might place, who they might beat, or what average they will have. Outcome goals like this can be very motivating and appropriate given the right amount of effort. However, it is important to layer on process and performance goals to keep perfectionism from derailing an otherwise amazing season.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">IF IT IS YOUR FIRST TEAM OR TENTH TEAM, AVOID THESE PITFALLS WHEN SETTING UP A TEAM. SET GOALS, TALK ABOUT THE MONEY, DECIDE HOW YOU WILL MAKE DECISIONS, AND SET REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS!<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"text-align:right\"><em>Editor&#8217;s note: You can find more articles written by Christy Frikken on <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.furycoaching.com\"><em>www.furycoaching.com<\/em><\/a><em>.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n<div class=\"sfsi_plus_widget sfsi_plus_shortcode_container\"><div id=\"sfsi_plus_wDiv\"><\/div><div class=\"sfsiplus_norm_row sfsi_plus_wDiv\"  style=\"width:260px;text-align:left;position:absolute;\"><div style='width:60px;height:auto;margin-left:2.5px;margin-right:2.5px;margin-bottom:25px;transform: none !important;' class='sfsi_premium_wicons shuffeldiv sfsi_premium_tooltip_align_automatic ' ><div style='line-height:0;' class='sfsiplus_inerCnt' data-othericoneffect=''><a class=' sficn  sciconfront ' data-effect=''   href='https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer\/sharer.php?u=https:\/\/www.skydivemag.com\/new\/mistakes-4-way-teams-make\/'  style='opacity:1;height: 60px;width: 60px;' ><img nopin=nopin alt='' title='' src='https:\/\/www.skydivemag.com\/new\/wp-content\/plugins\/Ultimate-Premium-Plugin\/images\/icons_theme\/chrome_grey\/chrome_grey_fb.png' height='60' width='60' style='' class='sfcm sfsi_premium_wicon' data-effect='' \/><\/a><\/div><\/div><div style='width:60px;height:auto;margin-left:2.5px;margin-right:2.5px;margin-bottom:25px;transform: none !important;' class='sfsi_premium_wicons shuffeldiv sfsi_premium_tooltip_align_automatic ' ><div style='line-height:0;' class='sfsiplus_inerCnt' data-othericoneffect=''><a class=' sficn  sciconfront '  data-effect='' href='https:\/\/x.com\/intent\/post?text=Skydivemag+https%3A%2F%2Fwww.skydivemag.com%2Fnew%2Fmistakes-4-way-teams-make%2F+%23goodread+%40skydivemag&url='  style='opacity:1;height: 60px;width: 60px;'   ><img nopin=nopin alt='' title='' src='https:\/\/www.skydivemag.com\/new\/wp-content\/plugins\/Ultimate-Premium-Plugin\/images\/icons_theme\/chrome_grey\/chrome_grey_twitter.png' height='60' width='60' style='' class='sfcm sfsi_premium_wicon sfsi_premium_twitter_icon' data-effect='' \/><\/a><\/div><\/div><div style='width:60px;height:auto;margin-left:2.5px;margin-right:2.5px;margin-bottom:25px;transform: none !important;' class='sfsi_premium_wicons shuffeldiv sfsi_premium_tooltip_align_automatic ' ><div style='line-height:0;' class='sfsiplus_inerCnt' data-othericoneffect=''><a class=' sficn  sciconfront '  data-effect='' href='https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/skydivemag\/'  style='opacity:1;height: 60px;width: 60px;'   ><img nopin=nopin alt='Visit Us' title='Visit Us' src='https:\/\/www.skydivemag.com\/new\/wp-content\/plugins\/Ultimate-Premium-Plugin\/images\/icons_theme\/chrome_grey\/chrome_grey_instagram.png' height='60' width='60' style='' class='sfcm sfsi_premium_wicon sfsi_premium_instagram_icon' data-effect='' \/><\/a><\/div><\/div><div style='width:60px;height:auto;margin-left:2.5px;margin-right:2.5px;margin-bottom:25px;transform: none !important;' class='sfsi_premium_wicons shuffeldiv sfsi_premium_tooltip_align_automatic ' ><div style='line-height:0;' class='sfsiplus_inerCnt' data-othericoneffect=''><a class=' sficn  sciconfront '  data-effect='' href=''  style='opacity:1;height: 60px;width: 60px;'   ><img nopin=nopin alt='' title='' src='https:\/\/www.skydivemag.com\/new\/wp-content\/plugins\/Ultimate-Premium-Plugin\/images\/icons_theme\/chrome_grey\/chrome_grey_fbmessenger.png' height='60' width='60' style='' class='sfcm sfsi_premium_wicon sfsi_premium_fbmessenger_icon' data-effect='' \/><\/a><div id=\"sfsiplusid_fbmessenger\" class=\"sfsi_plus_tool_tip_2 sfsi_premium_tooltip_automatic sfsi_plus_fbmessenger_tool_bdr sfsi_plus_Tlleft\" style=\"display:block;background:#FFF; 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